Employee Discipline Spanking
I’m posting this news item because it’s a real-world template for many a fantasy spanking story:
Business Owner Arrested After Allegedly Spanking Two Employees
RED BANK, Tenn. — The owner of a shaved ice business was arrested after two employees claimed he spanked them for making mistakes at work.
Paul Eugene Levengood, 57, was charged with two counts of sexual battery after the 19-year-old women complained.
One of the women told police that on her first day at the Tasty Flavors Sno Biz, Levengood made her sign a statement that said: “I give Gene permission to bust my behind any way he sees fit.”
Police Sgt. Jay LaMance said the women likely accepted the spankings instead of leaving immediately because they were “brought up to respect anybody who is an authority figure.”
One of the women told police Nov. 1 that she “was shocked at the incident but could not leave because she had no transportation.” The other woman said she continued to work for Levengood for more than a year after she was spanked and that he told her “either she could be spanked or be fired.”
Police say one of the women reported that on Oct. 30, her fourth day on the job, Levengood called her “into the back room of the store” after she forgot to put a banana in a smoothie drink.
She said that as punishment Levengood “bent her over his knee and spanked her behind 20 times.” She said that a day earlier he “snapped a photograph of her behind” as she reached for a bottle on a shelf.
Spankboss:
The following is my opinion.
I disagree with showing this story as an example of a fantasy to be desired by any Dominant.
This man was not a Dominant or even a Top. He was a bully who forced young girls into a situation that they found uncomfortable and even frightening.
Having seen the report on the news, I can tell you this guy looked like a sleaze. He looked arrogant, cocky, and even proud of having bullied two young ladies into doing his bidding.
This is not the role of a Dominant in my opinion. We have to bring 3 things to the table: Trust, respect, and freedom from fear. Without these, there is no D/s relationship and it is all about hurting someone to satisfy a deviant desire to control beyond limits.
I know you merely shared this as a “true life meets reality” sort of thing, but I was outraged at this mans behavior. Without consent, this is criminal. Without the trust of a submissive, you do not have a D/s relationship.
Submission is a gift given, not a right taken. A submissive consents to be so, and is fully capable of pulling the plug on the whole thing when she feels fear for her safety and well being.
It’s what keeps us from killing each other, or from lawsuits.
The “contract” he had the girls sign was neither legal nor in the spirit of the true D/s relationships I have encountered.
As a community we should decry the actions of this man. We already have a stigma of being “weird” and “kinky”. We see on the media story after story of how Doms and subs kill each other or cause permanent harm to one another.
Let’s gain perspective and show the world that we are responsible for our actions and that safety is foremost in our mind when engaging in our lifestyle.
Second to that is consent. This was clearly not the case on either side.
Sorry to rant, but I can’t fathom seeing this story as anything but a “good ol’ boy” getting his rocks off by touching some young ass.
It is hardly a fantasy to be desired, but a lesson on how we should continue to follow the natural rules set in D/s.
I mean no disrespect to you, I have observed and seen that you are a upstanding citizen in our community.
I only wish to point out how our lifestyle is corrupted by some, and how those that do should never be held up as our “leading lights”.
Chev
Chev, good points … but I considered them before I posted.
You miss one thing. The news media always sensationalizes this stuff. And even in their sensationalized versions, the matter of consent is not clear.
You can say there was no consent. If that were demonstrably the case, I would not have posted the article. I don’t discuss rape or sexual abuse on this blog.
But, although there was clarly an economic power imbalance, the lack of consent is not clear from the facts. One young lady was involved for a year before complaining. There is at least some potential for “second thoughts” there — or sheepishly claiming not to have consented when the other young lady made the matter public. The “contract”, too, though hardly enforceable, does indicate some degree of willingness to submit to the arrangement. Surely not a fully-negotiated relationship, but possibly a long way from crime. I have little patience with people who claim to have been forced in situations where they appear not to have exercised their fundamental freedom to walk away.
Unfortunately, only the jury will ever hear enough of the facts to know for sure.
Oh yes, and one more thing: I utterly reject your suggestion that any fantasy (even a fantasy involving lack of consent) is inappropriate. Communities and societies have some right to condemn acts, but to condemn fantasies is attempted thought control. Fantasizing is the ultimate victimless crime.
I saw this story on the 11:00 news last night and nearly choked on my tea! I was going to tell you about it, but you had already posted. My my my, wish I had a boss like that when I was a teenager!
Yes, of course, we could all do with a little more fantasy. But to realize a fantasy, you need to find yourself a willing partner. Forcing your fantasies on people you work with — or worse, on people who work for you — is bullshit, plain and simple.
From our partners, we expect love and emotional support. When we go to work, we’re there to make some money, to get the job done. That’s why any kind of sexual harrassment, and especially this creep’s, is so offensive. It may be his ice cream shop, but his personal fantazies have no place there.
That said, you are right, Spank Boss, that the woman who tolerated the spankings for a year, only to come forward when a more recent hire complained, has put herself in some kind of grey area. If she had been dating the man, I’m not sure what I would say — I would need a lot more information. But since she was working for him, his even bringing the topic up was illegal.
Take it from a waitress who’s seen a lot of chauvinist chefs: nothing makes the blood boil like some creep who’s trying to get his rocks off where you’re working.
sigh….
The women will win hefty settlements in court… the man is a pig who is beyond learning a lesson. His whole community knows what he did, and for all intents and purposes he’ll always be a pig among the ‘good’ people he knows. (he may be incapable of knowing that… but that’s even more sad…. and a whole other topic..)
Even so…
All the rest of us really do own the smile and the OMG imagery that compliments and feeds our kinky thoughts. The smile is simply that… a smile….
It is possible, you know, to simply smile and appreciate that life is diverse, creative and amazing. And in doing so, the line between what’s acceptable and unacceptable in the world of good and decent people doesn’t move… and lets face it 99.9 percent of spankos are good and decent people…
Thanks for the smile spankboss… ;)
and… as has been pointed out… there is probably a whole lot more to the story than will ever see print or media….
I think that this man was a predator. I had a situation in which I told my employer that I wanted to be spanked for doing something wrong. Of course, I was sexually motivated. Even so, it took awhile, but the wait was worth it. I was called into his office and told I was to be spanked. Quivering with anticipation, i went over his knee, had my skirt lifted and my underwear taken down. I was spanked soundly for several minutes. When it was over, I was soaking wet. I think I would have come if he had spanked me any longer. I left his office and ran into the restroom to look at my ass. I then satisfied myself. This happened 2 more times before my boss left for another job.
Spankboss:
I was a Police Officer for 17 years.
I have had many victims of rape and forced sexual situtions come to me years after the act and try to file a report.
I’m afraid you do not understand the victim mentallity.
You also do not understand the mentallity of the kids down here in the deep south.
I live here, in Tennessee now. I have lived in many other places throughtout my life.
I have not seen a place like TN when it comes to the kids here.
I can tell you that I have seen how respectful some of these kids are, and some of them are desperate for a job since the economical situation is far from adequate.
I’m not defending the girls. Maybe they liked being spanked, maybe they thought it was something they had to put up with to keep the job.
Either way, it was not consensual. It was forced.
The fact that the man has tried to commit suicide in jail, and is now enjoying the facilities of the local insane asylum speaks volumes against this case.
If he was so convinced he was going in the right, why commit suicide?
Again, nothing personal against you, or your site, which I frequent. I just don’t think there’s a smile in the act of a sleaze like this who took the cowards way out when he was caught.
I’m off the soapbox.
Chev
This guy’s behaviour is inexcusable. But what really surprised me in a negative way is that many in the spanking community seem to belittle this crime.
Those who have sympathy for the guy should just exchange the word “spanking” in the story for “sex”, “slap in the face” or “electro-shock” and see if their opinion changes. It should make absolutely no difference.
Those who are citing contract laws are missing the point entirely. There are certain unalianable rights that you can’t contract out and for a god reason. Otherwise human rights, labor rigths would go down the toilet. We would have slavery again within a short period of time.
The fact that one women stayed at the job for one year does not mean that she is into it either. The story does not say anything about repeated spankings anyway. But more importantly women stay in abusive relationships for years or even decades until they finally have the guts to leave. Using the logic some in the spanking community use in their assessment of the case, spousal abuse is really no problem at all. All of these women must really want it, if they stay so long with their husbands. Human psychology is more complex than that.
Again, it puzzles me how naive some in the spanking community seem to be.
Here is a good link:
http://www.recovery-man.com/abusive/abusive.htm
Please inform yourselves
Chev, on the facts reported, you are just wrong when you say “It was forced.” There is no allegation that these girls were threatened with violence if they did not submit.
Threating to fire someone is sleazy, but it is not force.
I’m utterly horrified that someone could be cop for 17 years and not understand the legal definition of “forced”, which is an element of many crimes.
Folks, I never said this was a good situation. All I said was that the issue of consent is ambiguous on the reported facts … and it is.
I was going to comment on this article re the differnce between fantasizing about situations and them actually happening, but after reading the above comments, I believe I’ve changed my mind… Enough’s been said already.
Love your blog, SpankBoss.
~ Peri
Does anyone know what they were
wearing when it happened. I mean I know it says they were clothed, but were they required to wear provocative clothing? If so, that may have been a warning sign for an ice cream shop.
Spankboss:
>> Chev, on the facts reported, you are just wrong when you say “It was forced.” There is no allegation that these girls were threatened with violence if they did not submit.
Black letter law defines forced sexual activity as “co-erced through physical or psychological means”.
True, this is wide open. That’s why we have courts. But these girls obviously felt they had been sexually harrassed on the job (which, as far as I know, is illegal in the state of TN and in other states as well). If not, they would not have come forward. Are all teenage girls evil because they did not come forward when something bad happened or was done to them?
>>>Threating to fire someone is sleazy, but it is not force.
“Physical or psychological means” my dear SpankBoss. It is forced if the person feels they will lose a position or create a turmoil to their friends, family, or self.
>>I’m utterly horrified that someone could be cop for 17 years and not understand the legal definition of “forced”, which is an element of many crimes.
I understand it quite well, as so noted, do you?
>> Folks, I never said this was a good situation. All I said was that the issue of consent is ambiguous on the reported facts … and it is.
Perhaps it would have been wise to with hold the story until the whole truth was sorted out. I think the “gentleman” of record has already spoken volumes in trying to commit suicide. Or was he forced into it? Do you think?
Having his reputation smeared, his face in the press, his acts open to public scrutiny?
Do you think that would have made him keep things secret?
Sauce for the goose. Those girls had families and reputations too.
I’m horrified at the lack of pity or empathy at the victims of this crime. Who was the sleazeball here? The girls? Their only crime was trying to get job. True, I’m told the market for employment was not as bad as I had first thought. Does this fact change the situation?
I don’t think so. The girls held back for some reason, and the truth will come out.
Me, I think you should have let the story fester in the Tennessee papers and not held it up as a “Gosh, wow, wouldn’t you like to be him?”
As for a smile, I think there are other stories that would better serve humor than the story of jerk like this.
Again, my humble opinion.
As someone said, let’s close the matter.
Chev
It’s my blog and I’ll close the matter when I feel like it. Ex-cops who can’t read law, or tell the difference between a crime (sexual battery) and a tort (sexual harassment) don’t get to misconstrue my posts, assassinate my character, and get the last word while doing it.
Where in this post or these commens did I suggest that anybody would like to “be like him?” It didn’t happen, and for you to say so is character assasination. I said this was a real-world example of a common fantasy scenario. It is — just read some spanking stories on the web if you don’t believe me. Even if the issue of consent were as clear as you imagine, fantasies of non-consenting boss spanking are all over the place. You may not like it, but it’s true.
As for your so-called “black letter law”, it’s not the law in any English Common Law jurisdiction and it’s surely not the law in Tennessee. Here’s the defination of sexual battery in Tennessee. It requires sexual contact with a victim (not alleged in the story quoted) accompanied by one of four circumstances:
fraud (not alleged here);
mentally defective or physically helpless victim (not alleged here);
Lack of consent by the victim and the perp knows it (this is the element that’s open for argument, but which I consider ambiguous on the reported facts); or
“Force or coercion is used to accomplish the act”.
Note that coercion is something separate from force, and not subsumed within it as you say it is. Note also that the statute defines coercion as “the threat of kidnapping, extortion, force or violence to be performed immediately or in the future.”
None of which was alleged here.
Bah. I stand by my statement – a cop for seventeen years who doesn’t know the definition of “force” (or coercion) scares the crap out of me.
Folks, I’m putting this much effort into arguing with Chev because of his censorious agenda. He keeps saying things like “Perhaps it would have been wise to with hold the story until the whole truth was sorted out” and “I think you should have let the story fester in the Tennessee papers.” I don’t understand why Chev thinks it’s OK to come on my blog and say “you shouldn’t say what you said” but, obviously, I’m not going to agree with him.
Perhaps you should calm down.
Oh, did I do it again? Telling you what to do in your own blog?
I merely suggested you should have skipped this story in that it was not up to the usual standard.
I’ve always admired your site and have frequented quite a bit.
However I believe you have it the other way around.
The only character assassination I see is on your end.
Saying a cop that doesn’t know the difference between sexual battery and a tort was from your end, not mine.
English common law is different from American Jurisprudence. Each state is different. Then you must factor in the Federal codes and the local and county codes. It’s not black and white.
But, then again, this tirade you have decided to throw is probably to keep your site active. Nothing like a little controversy and a good fight to keep the circulation up.
Pity, I thought you a rational man who could stand having a conversation without feeling he was being persecuted in some way.
Perhaps the rest of the readers of your blog are seeing a new side of you.
The unreasonable fanatic who blames everyone but themselves for their lack of judgement.
Oh, there I go again, telling you who you are. Now that’s not good of me is it?
After all, it’s you who are the only one allowed to tell the public who you readers are. Calling me an “uneducated cop” to whatever else you want to call me. Please, by all means, continue. I’ve had bricks thrown at me, been shot at, and even had an AIDS infected assailant cut himself and throw his own blood at me.
A few names is the least I have suffered in a job I did with pride, “uneductated” though you thought I was.
FYI, I was a beat cop for a short time. I rose in rank from street cop to Detective. I know more about American law than you will ever learn and I have studied criminal law in England and in other countries.
Your posting of the state law covering sexual battery was informative if not an act of distraction.
He hasn’t been charged. We won’t know what he will be charged with until a psychological evaluation is made. So your posting was of little or no impact at present.
BTW the charge was molestation, and it was a county charge not a state one. It’s going to be a case of “he said/she said” with it looking very bad for the “he” since he tried to commint suicide.
Maybe a little more time in that American law library site you seem to have found would help.
Again, a suggestion, not an order.
I’m afraid, also, that your idea that I’m somehow the “thought police” is so off the mark that it’s laughable.
I was an open practioner of the lifestyle in San Francisco for many years, and have belonged to other r/l lifestyle communities on and off for more than years than that. I have written articles for magazines and have written several pamphlets about the lifestyle and the reasons behind it.
Recently, some idiot here in Nashville began filming people going in
Recently, some idiot here in Nashville began filming people going in and out of a local Adult bookstore/toystore and he posts these images and mpegs on a website he created. He films the faces and posts them so that people will know the “sinners” that go in and out of this store.
I signed a petition to stop this jerk and have been working toward getting a city ordinance passed to stop these “holier-than-thou” bible thumpers from interfering in a persons right to privacy.
That’s not to pump me up, or to make me look like I’m some kind of great person, it’s just an example of the things I have done here and in other places where I’ve defended people’s right to be who they are.
As for my being an uneducated cop:
I have a degree in Criminal and Abnormal Psychology, and a criminalistic background that includes learning from mentors who are the leading lights of Forensic Psychology in America and abroad.
I’ve faced more cases like this than you have and I know guys like this Red Bank man. This is not a Dominant, but a deviate who did not warrant any recognition. Yes, I know there are sexual and Dominant (and a mix of) employee/employer relationships going on out there. I’m not telling them to stop or censoring them.
Hell, if it came to that, I would encourage anyone who would be themselves to be themselves.
However, I beleive THIS was not one of those instances, and it should not have gotten the recognition it did. Especially here, in the bible belt, where everyone is completely convinced practioners of the D/s or BDSM lifestyle are Satan’s minions waiting to destroy them all (ask any bible belt resident and see if they tell you otherwise).
It was unwanted and it is going to hurt a lot of people in the lifestyle. You have no idea of the incursions these “good people” will allow in the lives of people just being people. From accusing them of child molestation to selling drugs, so they can get in peoples computers and charge them with felonies.
If you really cared about the D/s lifestyle and its image you would agree with me, instead of defending this idiot who is totally off the mark of what a Dominant really is.
I’m not telling you what to do in your own blog. I merely suggested perhaps a little restraint was in order.
You want to take that as me giving you orders, well, I cannot control your interpretation of the events.
Oh, one last note: I began this as a friendly suggestion and a chance to voice my viewpoint on the matter. You turned it into a personal assault on you and a chance to show everyone what a marvelous defendent of censorship you are.
So much so, that anyone who seemingly disagrees with you on any point must be “uneducated” and a cause of fear.
Thanks, you made me feel so welcome.
At any rate, this is your blog, as you have pointed out.
At any rate, this is your blog, as you have pointed out.
This means, in essence, you win and I lose no matter what I say. So why don’t we just forget it and drop it. It was a suggestion not an order and I was not telling you what to do in your own blog.
Now you can crucify me on whatever cross you choose. Chev the uneducated thug. Chev the censor, or whatever else pleases you and helps you gain more readers.
A pity we could not have parted friends, which I had hoped for, actually. I thought you, at first, to be someone after my own thoughts. Wanting to bring a little class to the lifestyle and share thoughts and opinions freely.
Well, we all live and learn.
Let’s just forget I was ever here I will make sure to avoid your blog in future.
Chevaliersg
I’ll add “can’t read” to the charges. You wrote “He hasn’t been charged.” The news story I quoted says “Paul Eugene Levengood, 57, was charged with two counts of sexual battery after the 19-year-old women complained.”
Think what you want, Chev. But I’m not going to self-censor what I write just because you, or anyone else, disapproves of it. Especially when you falsely accuse me of defending some guy that I’ve never spoken in favor of. Lacking your finely-honed cop instincts and degree in criminal psychology, I can’t make the leap from “I know guys like this Red Bank man” to “This is not a Dominant, but a deviate who did not warrant any recognition.” I’d never say something like that about a man that I’d never met, especially if the only data I had was the unreliable reportage of sensationalist reporters.
I’ve said all I plan to say, unless you post another post that contains flat mis-statements of law or fact.
You get the last word.
Never think in your mind that you have an open or even a fair forum in this blog.
You sent that down the river 5 posts ago.
Add to your shortcomings “didn’t follow up”.
The initial charges were dropped when he tried to commit suicide in order to recharge him later upon his Psychological evaluation.
You may rant at will.
Chev
I think it’s a good story. The fact that such a thing can happen in real life only adds to the power of any fantasy on the subject.
As a followup, the man tried to commit suicide following his release on bond. And to spankboss, even the former cops in Tn are human and tend to make mistakes. I am a retired Tn. deputy and I NEVER saw the respectful kids in Tn. that “Chev” speaks about. Maybe that is the difference between East and Middle Tn. The ones I dealt with were the same caliber as their parents, who often shared the same jail as they inhabited.
Thanks for your work.
Mike
*thumbs up for Spankboss*