Her First Punishment
This made me laugh. You’ll recall that I’ve been catching some minor flak lately for linking to some harshly-whipped Russian ladies who (*gasp*) may have been in it strictly for the money. Nobody in the kink community should condone such a thing, I was told. Apparently I’m contributing to snuff, rape, exploitation, domestic abuse, child abuse, verbal abuse, irresponsibility, name-calling, flaming, and (for all I know) the terrible state of modern animated children’s television. The spiritual cousin, I am, to heroin pushers and KKK sympathizers. Oh, and I’m unethical and lacking in moral judgment, to boot.
Have I mentioned that I’m rather allergic to people telling me what I “should” do or think or condone? No? Well, I am.
With that background, you may well imagine my guffaw when I stumbled over a brand new spanking paysite to bring to your attention. The name is innocuous enough: Her First Punishment. But click through, and the site’s tagline catches your eye: “Ever wonder how naughty girls are punished in Russia?”
The answer would seem to be “harshly.” This gallery (found at Spankslaves Spanking TGP) proclaims, in various places: “Flaming Red Russian Bottoms. Streaming Hot Russian Tears. Russian Slaves Spanked to Tears. Real Life Spankings — Severe Punishments Directly From Russia!” All of which, as we children of a consumer culture know so well, must be nothing but the most strict and literal truth.
Judge for yourself, why don’t ya? She’s surely crying:
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Hear hear. Just keep ’em coming, Spankboss!
Wow,that must be the only way to make a living over there.Just think,we used to believe the Russians were polar opposites to our own philosophy.
It’s good stuff. That facial expression says it all!
Consider this though. As open-minded and kinky as I am, I do think those Russian pictures, if real, come very close to the edge of my personal limits of safe, Sane and consensual. If you are breaking the skin you are risking infection and permanent scarring. The Eastern European porn industry isn’t as on the up and up as its Western counterpart, and sexual slavery is not only not uncommon, but par for the course in the former Yugoslavian republic. Unless you are very sure these pictures are voluntary they should give you pause. I am a dominant and I enjoy causing pain, but I am also a civil rights lawyer who has seen real torture and its not sexy at all….
Oh, ye flippin’ gods, not again.
That “should” is a conversation stopper. The proper “standard of worry” to apply to BDSM photos on the internet is a matter for personal choice.
Mephisto, you could say “It gives me pause” without a quibble from me — that’s just you sharing your opinion the way you did when you told us the pics approach your personal limits. But as soon as you tell me the pics “should” give me pause, you join the ranks of the would-be thought controllers. You’re presuming to tell me what to think, and consequently I, er, “laugh” in your general direction.
I’d think a civil rights lawyer would know better. Certainly, I wouldn’t hire a civil rights lawyer who didn’t understand basic principles of freedom of conscience.
Let me rephrase your admonition in several different ways:
1) “Unless you are very sure these pictures are voluntary they should give you pause.” — Mephisto
2) “Unless you are fairly sure these pictures are voluntary they should give you pause.”
3) “If you have no way to know whether or not these pictures are voluntary, they should give you pause.”
4) “If you have any reason to suspect these pictures are not voluntary, they should give you pause.”
5) “If you have any scintilla of evidence that these pictures are not voluntary, they should give you pause.”
6) “If you have strong evidence that these pictures are not voluntary, they should give you pause.”
7) “If you know that these pictures are not voluntary, they should give you pause.”
Most of us here would agree with one or another of those positions. But who the hell are you, Mephisto, to tell me what should give me pause?
Bah.
Try as I might, I just can’t understand all the hoopla about this, Spankboss. It seems as though this has developed into several side threads:
1) The ethics of making punishment films with paid actresses who might not actually be lifestyle submissives
2) Whether or not a link to a site is an endorsement of its content
3) Whether or not you are the embodiment of all that is wrong with the world today because you refuse to give in to loudmouths with more bandwidth than brains
On the first count, the site’s opening page warns people quite clearly what the page contains. It invites people who do not approve of such to exit. It says that all models were of age and consenting. That’s as much as one gets at any porn site, so I’m not sure what the conflict is. If the problem is that women might have consented to make the video solely for money and not for their sexual gratification, I remain mystified as to the offensiveness of that. Every day people do dangerous work for money! Allowing one’s ass to be tanned (even severely) doesn’t compare to the work done by policemen, firemen, and soldiers, who risk their health and even their lives – just for a paycheck. If the ladies in the videos are doing it for money, what is the big problem with that? (And why is it not a problem when a fireman runs into a burning building just for a paycheck?)
On the second count, I do believe that one is responsible for one’s links. I try only to link to sites that I find acceptable by my standards. I believe you do as well, even if those standards are not shared by some of your readers.
On the third count, I do have to pause and marvel at the way people can blow something out of proportion. A little link to a spanking site that folks find squickish, and now you’re the devil. LOL I’ll just be on my way to purchase some straw so that I can burn you in effigy later.
~hugs~
–Invidia
Heh, Invidia, thanks. I’m trying to avoid your three numbered issues, since anything more I could say on them would just be rehashed hash. The comment above actually goes to a fourth, and even sillier, issue.
On the internet, see, nobody knows very much about the reasons why a photographic model is to be found in front of the camera. Some of these folks are attacking me because I’ve chosen not to worry about those reasons as much as they do.
I’m not being attacked because of my links, at least not primarily; I’m being attacked because my links are seen as evidence that I’m an immoral person because I don’t worry enough. {boggle}
Spankboss,
A hearty cheer for your outspoken opinion. True freedom is naught but personal choice. The ultimate censor, in a free world, should be the viewer — if you don’t like it, don’t look at it. To even suggest a change is censorship. But because of the PC crowd, we are assailed on all sides out of fear of “offending the sensibilities” some unknown person or persons. Stand by your convictions.
Again, a cheer for you.
Let it go. You aren’t being attacked anymore. Stop whining!
And yes … it’s because of the links. Primarily! ;-)
LOL — whining? Coming from you, Bliatz, that’s especially rich.
Political Correctness is the replacement of thought with conveniently simple-minded rules. I, however, choose to use my brain and frequently find myself on the opposite side of PC folks. =)
Dear Boss,
I love your reasoning. When I first read your comments about people trying
to tell you what not to do, etc, you really opened up my eyes and put the
facts very clear.
I also get a kick out of people, especially with a kink, trying to dictate what is right and wrong. You’d
think, these people, of all people, would preach tolerance and open-mindedness! Yet, instead, they try to
dictate what is right by their standards. Sort of like rapists coming
down on the child molesters, but maybe
not even that clear-cut.
A civil liberties lawyer would fight
tooth and nail to defend one person’s
right to say what any other sane person would fight against, namely,
because this is a free country, based on freedom of speech, and I would assume, freedom of thought as well!
Just keep doing what you are doing.
You are not alone, we all hate the
“thought” police!
Thanks for the great site, and sharing
so much of your personal life and feelings. Enjoy!
Jim
Only had to write them lines 7 time SB? Heck & Sheesh… hardly seems like a fittin punishment at allllllllll for such subversive, spankiphile evilness tsk tsk tsk….
bethie SHOULD quadruple that now and you SHOULD git to writin em or ….
or….
or….
we’ll have to spank you… ;)
hehehehe
“I’m being attacked because my links are seen as evidence that I’m an immoral person because I don’t worry enough.”
um, sorry to add, and im not meaning to stir, but just intruiged…. but have you ever worried?
Onlooker, of course I worry, How could I not? I consider, and reject, links every day. Sometimes it’s because I look at a picture and I think “She looks wretched, miserable, unwilling in her soul and not just in the moment.” You know, nothing I could prove, just a gut feeling.
I don’t have a problem with other people reacting that same way to the stuff I do link to. Everybody’s gut is different. That’s my freakin’ point. When somebody has a bad gut feeling about one of my links, it’s OK to say so. What’s not OK with me is when someone comes and informs me that their judgment is so superior to mine that I “should” defer to their discomfort, instead of relying on my own instincts. That, I won’t do. Plus, I freely admit, the breath-taking arrogance of it pisses me off.
A quote:
“A hearty cheer for your outspoken opinion. True freedom is naught but personal choice. The ultimate censor, in a free world, should be the viewer — if you don’t like it, don’t look at it.”
This is not true. True freedom is not “personal choice”… but personal choice that does not infringe upon the rights and freedoms of others as well. True freedom is also very much a responsibility.
Many many women are mistreated and force into unwilling submission — NON CONSENSUAL SUBMISSION. Not the kinky fun exciting submission that WE consider hot.
THAT IS NOT FREEDOM.
Now- about the links– I don’t give a flying fuck. If it offended me, I wouldn’t come here anymore. On the other hand – I think that this topic is being given a black/white distinction with some people overlooking any nuances and without subtle differences being recognized.
So- SB- if you KNEW that the women in question were being hurt without consent, would you still post the links?
-J
Yeah, right!! I definitely don’t think she is enjoying it.
I dunno. She kinda looks like she’s laughing to me *chuckle*
sb- semantics semantics.
you are starting to sound like an offended spoiled brat and it makes coming here less pleasant since you’re so intent on making OTHER people wrong who have offended you.
oh – i guess that means that I can leave and suck it right? least i offend YOU and then you can start posting shitty things about ME even though I used to enjoy your sense of humor. You sound like rush limbaugh now when he’s talking smack about liberals.
ugh.
That anonymous one wasn’t me!! ;-)
Janey, your question misses the point entirely. This whole argument is about people telling me that I should refrain from links based on their fears, concerns, or worries, in the absence of anybody having any actual knowledge. I can’t imagine what I’ve written that gives you the idea I might be sanguine about women being hurt without consent, had I knowledge of same.
Dana, I’ve never used language as offensive or ugly as you just did, with respect to anyone. If you have a beef with me, run it by me without the gratuitous insults, would ya?
I was making a rhetorical point SB. I didn’t miss the point. ;) I never thought that you were ok with it.
I suppose that the “rights discourse” going on here is the same as it is anywhere else. One person says that you should or shouldn’t… and then the other party has to either defend themselves or be accused of rights infringement.
ps- I don’t think you’re infringing on rights… just that – women’s subordination issues are a HOT topic because so many of us cannot control what other people do… and THEY (those who infringe on those rights) say, “You can’t tell me what to do. I don’t have to listen to anyone but my own conscience.” It’s sad, but true occurrance in our world… and what is ok with some people isn’t ok to others.
I also have to add that not being ok with something gives that person a RESPONSIBLITY to speak out against it or they are denying their own truth. And so I cannot take issue with the person who originally took issue with you because she did it on her own sight.
peace,
janey
Whatever! Let’s have more of this stuff!
I just love this picture, Spankboss… I come back to it again and again.
Do you happen to know what video (if any) it is from? Is it by Lupus? If so, I’d love a look and a listen!!!
John.
Hey, John. I don’t believe it’s from a Lupus video — the Her First Punishment people also license Lupus material for sale through their Lupus Spanking website, but the materials on Her First Punishment all appear to have been licensed from a Russian source. If this video is available anywhere except the member’s area at Her First Punishment, I’m not aware of it.
Thanks for the info, Spankboss. Keep up the good work.
What I don’t like about this site is the attitude of the Dom. What I do like is the accuracy and severity of the canings applied to the bottoms of the young women. With a few tweaks this could be the best spanking site on the web
It’s the severity I like… look at their expressions!